The Harsh Reality of Zero Integrity/Empathy in Psi Perception or The Beyond

[Durward]

I will drop back into one of my rants about why the BTK serial killer could perform as a mail carrier, as a deacon in the church, have a family and kids, and NOBODY's Psi skills warned them or pointed towards this obvious sadist psycho for the 17 years he was active. None of the victims got any warning or protection from any spirit, or any of their own higher perception. None of the victims souls, perceptions, awareness, or cognition helped them when the precog of that future should have been very loud. None of the psychics or mediums got any help or data from the beyond pointing to this sick and twisted person for all of those years while all this suffering and torture continued. None of the psychics or mediums got any messages from his victims when these souls should have been crying out for justice.

All the while he's smiling at people in church and torturing the next women in his backyard shed. There is either something sick and twisted going on, or Psi perception doesn't care, or whatever is behind that religion doesn't care, or people who survive death / ghosts of the living just don't give a damn like we would expect from anyone with any integrity. There are so many failures in areas that should matter and be important to both the living and the dead, but they obviously aren't.

This applies to all current child abuse going on, all past abuse, those like JW Gacy burying people under the house for decades, and so much more that should or would be visible and clear if anything with any integrity from some perceptual oversight or superior awareness position gave a damn about human beings and suffering.

So, whatever we are dealing with obviously doesn't care, or can't think, or is in neutral without our supervision.

There is so much evil, and so widespread, and most of what I hear in Psi circles are these goody goody woo woo versions and stories. To me, this is a total disconnect from reality and what really matters. But it appears to fit how this NIMBY society functions.

Where's the integrity or empathy? Obviously just in our own ego brains, but not when it comes to fueling the data or the importance of some of this data, and those who have passed to the beyond are certainly not helping.

 

[StoatCatcher]

I mostly watch true crime documentaries about disappearances and things that are "Missing 411" adjacent and there is a similar trend of psychics failing to turn up clues or find what should be, at that point, inert organic mass that has been sitting there for a few days to a few years in some cases.

It could be that the rate of people who actually have powers and contacts to help out in a situation like this is just that low that they get outnumbered by a larger group of fakers that are ready to exploit the victims of these things with completely made up bullshit. It could be that people with real power get cold feet at the idea of getting a real tragic case wrong and don't act. I could even accept the idea that having a better skill at masking your intent might correlate to some ability to mask your energy to sensitive people as well.

But my view when it comes to "why don't the higher forces intervene?" is kinda boring. I just don't think there are actual forces out there that care about humanity. As a matter of fact humanity might be entirely accidental, along with life itself, and if there is something out there to perceive us it's probably not even aware of us. It's my belief that most beings described by myths and religions are just human concepts and, at most, egregores that we ourselves made up and because of that fact are just as inconsistent as us at applying their power. There are no systems based on morality or judgement either. Just because you can take energy away from something that doesn't mean it's you that automatically has an obligation to replenish it or that you will suffer any sort of consequence. The only reason BTK got caught, to draw from your example, is that he could not resist the urge to just taunt the police one more time. Had he not done that he could've walked away free.

With that said, I equally dislike pseudo-Gnostic narratives that the universe is out to get us and that actually there are far more entities looking to do us harm. It's just the same anthropocentric formula but in reverse and applying intent where there is none.

 

[Durward]

I mostly watch true crime documentaries about disappearances and things that are "Missing 411" adjacent and there is a similar trend of psychics failing to turn up clues or find what should be, at that point, inert organic mass that has been sitting there for a few days to a few years in some cases.

It could be that the rate of people who actually have powers and contacts to help out in a situation like this is just that low that they get outnumbered by a larger group of fakers that are ready to exploit the victims of these things with completely made up bullshit. It could be that people with real power get cold feet at the idea of getting a real tragic case wrong and don't act. I could even accept the idea that having a better skill at masking your intent might correlate to some ability to mask your energy to sensitive people as well.

But my view when it comes to "why don't the higher forces intervene?" is kinda boring. I just don't think there are actual forces out there that care about humanity. As a matter of fact humanity might be entirely accidental, along with life itself, and if there is something out there to perceive us it's probably not even aware of us. It's my belief that most beings described by myths and religions are just human concepts and, at most, egregores that we ourselves made up and because of that fact are just as inconsistent as us at applying their power. There are no systems based on morality or judgement either. Just because you can take energy away from something that doesn't mean it's you that automatically has an obligation to replenish it or that you will suffer any sort of consequence. The only reason BTK got caught, to draw from your example, is that he could not resist the urge to just taunt the police one more time. Had he not done that he could've walked away free.

With that said, I equally dislike pseudo-Gnostic narratives that the universe is out to get us and that actually there are far more entities looking to do us harm. It's just the same anthropocentric formula but in reverse and applying intent where there is none.

You have officially been un-ignored. Great response, thanks for the input and opinion.

 

[Ananda]

People of Dharmic religions know that one lifetime is nothing, about reincarnation, karma, consequences.

The YOLO Abrahamic religions of the world lead people who think and question, to atheist materialism eventually. Why do you think these Abrahamics are so hell-bent on destroying Dharmic religions?

 

[Digiquo]

The spirituality of modern Western society is substantially less developed than the spirituality of more ancient peoples, especially with religions typically at the forefront of all modern spiritual thoughts. Spirituality in the modern world is considered a luxury for those who crave it but can't find the time, and a distraction for just about everyone else. In ancient times, spirituality, and consequently magic, was your lifeline to survival. It is no wonder then that tales of the curses of the dead and powerful psychics and oracles existed only in times when the thought that some seemingly arbitrary taboo could quite literally spell your death or the doom of your entire community if not rigorously observed. Sympathetic magic was simply the normal mode of thought before the greater advent of religions which developed the more refined ceremonial magics and spiritual communication. It stands to reason then, that this heightened awareness of magic and how to actually utilize it by the common man resulted in substantially more frequent and more severe magical consequences for crimes committed, and there were many many measures in place across all cultures specifically to counteract supernatural retribution for mundane evils, and failure to observe them were most certainly to end in the criminal's untimely demise or worse.
Back to the point, why a serial killer could go so unnoticed despite everything we think we know about the capabilities of the dead and those with psychic/magical capabilities, can be merely summed up: the populace at large simply has zero spiritual foundation on which to utilize said capabilities, and those people who claim they can do miraculous things on a public stage tend to be the biggest liars. The vast bulk of magic is manifestation (impossible to link directly to an individual empirically and vastly variable in time), ceremonial (only perceptible to the individual actually performing it), or inner transformation (again, perceptible only to the performer). If flinging fireballs and reading minds are truly within our reach as magicians/witches/what-have-you, that information is well-guarded by the few who can actually accomplish it, and I don't blame them for not sharing it openly.
Personally, I think direct psychic connections are a load of hogwash, fantasy written by people too intimidated by the sheer volume of actual occult and magical knowledge to interface with it and who would prefer to dumb down some of the broader concepts to create mental superheroes.