Who is Allah?

[Dashman90]

I dont wana go to deep down the rabbit hole, but if Allah seemed non existent before Islam, then is it possible that this could have been a modernised name for a pre-existing god/God?

 

[8Lou1]

The question should be WHAT is allah, not who.

Reason: no personification of what is described as ' outside of human paradigm'. Which means that if you take all human knowledge on all levels of being and all areas known to mankind, that thats not allah.

It also means that when one experiences something new, the old dies, but allah doesnt change and still is outside of human paradigm.

 

[Dashman90]

The question should be WHAT is allah, not who.

Reason: no personification of what is described as ' outside of human paradigm'. Which means that if you take all human knowledge on all levels of being and all areas known to mankind, that thats not allah.

It also means that when one experiences something new, the old dies, but allah doesnt change and still is outside of human

The question should be WHAT is allah, not who.

Reason: no personification of what is described as ' outside of human paradigm'. Which means that if you take all human knowledge on all levels of being and all areas known to mankind, that thats not allah.

It also means that when one experiences something new, the old dies, but allah doesnt change and still is outside of human paradigm.

I didnt ask who or what. But you kinda said what without even answering the question

 

[8Lou1]

True.
I wrote that, cause the surge for allah in history made me realize that.

Lets put it different when allah is beyond human, a creator god who has created several universes and rules them at allahs own term, dont you think it was allah, the Nameless One, the Invisible One all along?

And doesnt it make sense for a human to name anything, as allah ordered us so.

Our body is our veil, our roots are our glasses. Look at what calls you behind the veil of the name allah. Those are the old gods.

 

[glaive]

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for Allah. I wouldn't consider that too deep down a rabbit hole.

"Allah" is thought to be a contraction of al-

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, "the god," referring to a single supreme deity.

Originally, ʾilāh was used as an epithet for the West Semitic creator god ʾIlu (the

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), before being adopted as the proper name itself for this god.

 

[Amadeus]

I've been wondering about this too especially since part of my practice is doing stuff from sufism.

I spoke to some sufis who had completely different opinions than the majority.
One of them was sure that Allah is just a deity. Another thought it's nothing but a group of spirits.

There are some who think it's just an egregore.

Whatever it is, it has pretty strong hot and powerful energy.

The Quran and effects that come feel like a powerful magical system with distinctively different spirits than any other system. Great purifying effects, peace of mind, harmony, excellent spiritual states, all kinds of results.

 

[Mh4419]

Allah was existed before Islam, as Mohamad father's name was (Abdullah), even people warshiped to Allah before Islam beside Allah daughters (LAAT, MANAT, OZZA)

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

Its always good practice to ask the people practicing the religion what they worship instead of trying to historiographically or culturally point to some other diety as the true identity. Muslims claim "Allah" is the one true god of Abraham. The word Allah means "The God". As magicians we believe in intent. So if Muslims claim that Allah is the one true God of Abraham then that's what they're worshiping.

 

[Kepler]

A false god with no reality. A typical thought construct from a common primitive metaphysical model of reality with an imagined transcendent god at the pinnacle of it.

 

[MorganBlack]

Neoplatonism, ideas big enough to hold everyone and everything. The more esoteric Muslims are our Neoplatonic brothers, just in another cultural context.

This one is really good.
Read along with Neville Goddard and Dr. Iain McGilchrist.

Creative Imagination and Mystical Experience in the Sufism of Ibn ‘Arabî, by Henry Corbin

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More academic.
Illuminating the Divine: The Influence of Neo-Platonism in Islamic Philosophy

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"Illuminating the Divine: The Influence of Neo-Platonism in Islamic Philosophy" explores the profound synthesis of Neo-Platonic thought with Islamic intellectual traditions, a fusion that has shaped the contours of Islamic philosophy, theology, and mysticism for centuries. This work delves into the lives and legacies of seminal Islamic philosophers who, inspired by the rich tapestry of Neo-Platonism, embarked on a quest to understand the divine and articulate a vision of the cosmos that bridges the finite with the infinite. Through their engagement with Neo-Platonic principles, these thinkers developed sophisticated metaphysical frameworks, ethical theories, and models of knowledge that continue to resonate within the Islamic world and beyond. This book invites readers on a journey through the intellectual endeavors of these philosophers, illuminating the paths they carved in the pursuit of knowledge and the universal quest for understanding the divine. Keywords: Neo-Platonism, Islamic philosophy, metaphysics, theology, mysticism, Al-Farabi, Avicenna, Al-Ghazali, Ibn Rushd, Suhrawardi, Ibn al-Arabi, emanation, unity of being, intellectual history, cross-cultural transmission.

 

[Ananda]

I dont wana go to deep down the rabbit hole, but if Allah seemed non existent before Islam, then is it possible that this could have been a modernised name for a pre-existing god/God?

Allah is a demonic force. If you're from a buddhist background and become somewhat sensitive, you'll be repelled by Islam.

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I've been wondering about this too especially since part of my practice is doing stuff from sufism.

I spoke to some sufis who had completely different opinions than the majority.
One of them was sure that Allah is just a deity. Another thought it's nothing but a group of spirits.

There are some who think it's just an egregore.

Whatever it is, it has pretty strong hot and powerful energy.

The Quran and effects that come feel like a powerful magical system with distinctively different spirits than any other system. Great purifying effects, peace of mind, harmony, excellent spiritual states, all kinds of results.

Purifying effects? Their goal is an eternal fuckfest in heaven, with the same words to describe beautiful serving boys as they use for the houris. How do you define purity? Freedom from lust? Even old Mohammed did not have that.

 

[MorganBlack]

Ananda, I get what you're saying - and I will never try to erase you're lived experiences!

From a Vajrayana Buddhist perspective, every religion can have the good and bad manifestations, the cool and the hot, the kind and the aggressive, the peaceful and the warlike. We humans take The Infinite and make it to be good or bad. In my view, we are That which creates meaning itself and who have free will.

I feel we also need to engage with those who are making evil spirits (or spirits turned evil), as well as the systems of oppression who make them feel they need evil on their side. and encourage them to make kind and gracious manifestations. It will be a very long journey, sadly, I also feel.

 

[lumineth Realm Lord]

I dont wana go to deep down the rabbit hole, but if Allah seemed non existent before Islam, then is it possible that this could have been a modernised name for a pre-existing god/God?

Isn't that just the Arabic word for God or something?

 

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To understand what is allah, i suggest looking up 2 theories. The first is about egreggores . When humans put faith and power into something, it can create something that would seem like a deity. The 2nd theory is a persona is created, and another being takes on this persona to feed off humans. This is also mentioned in a translation of the demonic bible, what is a god or deity but another fallen angel or devil however you want to call it. Humans defining allah and believing about allah in a specific way despite what the word means, allah isn't the god if you are able to sense. While i have experience to go into far more detail, i would end up banned if i were to mention it even if it doesnt break the rules.

All deities humans worship require sustenance, they dont have raw strength to win against anyone strong, but any deity with sufficient sustenance can affect people. Human faith is stronger than humans realise but it is not the end all be all, not even human souls. So while some will proclaim that deities can be easily defeated, it is entirely ignored that for as long as deities are worshipped, they will respawn immediately for as many times they are defeated, and thus trying to kill a currently worshipped deity is a terrible and inefficient way to fight it.

As far as supernatural standing goes with other beings, allah is very familiar with djinns, one could say commands a vast army of djinns. This is because of the association and practice of working with djinns by muslims in the past. Islam's supernatural beings dwelled in the sky realm, a location of multiple layers consisting of interconnecting cities where you can view the surface of the earth from the sky. (this location has description and significance in scripture, including a supposed location and description of the throne of god)

What really makes allah more of the 2nd theory is because of the concept of submission. A lot of worship and giving your soul is an anti divine concept, hence allah cannot be the god because of this core concept within islam. Hence written inscription does not work out if the majority of belief of something is different i.e. how allah looks like based on sensing vs scripture.

 

[Konsciencia]

The Source has no names, but the Muslims call Him Allah. Allah is the same thing I call Source or The Universe. My best advice is to verify it for yourself. Don't believe a word I say.

 

[Ananda]

The Source has no names, but the Muslims call Him Allah. Allah is the same thing I call Source or The Universe. My best advice is to verify it for yourself. Don't believe a word I say.

Allah is just a generic name for God that both Arabic speaking Christian’s and Muslims use. But the energy of Islam in particular is markedly different from Buddhism, the Vedic religion and even Christianity.

 

[adada]

Allah is just a generic name for God that both Arabic speaking Christian’s and Muslims use. But the energy of Islam in particular is markedly different from Buddhism, the Vedic religion and even Christianity.

how can i fell these energies? where I start?

 

[Amadeus]

how can i fell these energies? where I start?

To experience the Allah effect. Get a physical Quran, language does not matter, spam it cover to cover, 1 round in a week or less, 4-5 days, start the next, next. It will burn away the layers and make the energies come in.
For some people all it takes is a few weeks, others need months. This will get more intense over time. Cover to cover method is really good for it.
The effect carries over to other practices and you can feel more from everything.

The physical book method is better, you are holding it and will start feeling it through hands as well.

 

[MorganBlack]

To experience the Allah effect.

Neat. I might have to try this and see how it feels.

Sounds like what I think of as a "hot" practice. And perhaps similar in ways to the effect I experience with the PGM's Headless Rite. After I pick it up again after not saying the rite for a while, in two days I will be feverish, and I think I'm coming down with an illness. The skin on my upper body and forehead will be hot, itchy. Then I remember and am like, "Oh, I forget it ALWAYS does this"

In terms of personal mythology, to frame whatever it is, I 'put' or "slot' the being , energy or whatever the Headless Rite calls in very very far-from-us and very primordial "Stellar location as the Demiurge (again, in my personal gnosis framework) , but as / in a very primordial manifestation. In my view the Catholic modulation of the Trinity is to soften His "hot displeasure". The Father is still the Father and is very, shall we say, Old Testament. Or at least in my current understanding.

 

[Amadeus]

try this and see how it feels

The Allah effect. It's a highly specific energy. Yes, the headless rite feels hot too. I can't remember which one I read, it wasn't the one from Crowley's book, although I remember that too, it felt like how you described it.

With the Quran experiment.

There will be a fever effect, either the pleasant or unpleasant fever. The good one feels like drugs, the bad is ...bad.

The cover to cover method with an exceptionally hot text such as the Quran, when cycled many times over and over again, round after round, it will form a very strong connection. The most ideal would be something like 4-5x rounds. A round takes about 10 hours, 5-6days x 5.

This will stack and also break through the mind.

During the first round something will start happening but the second and 3rd will kick in much harder.

Yes the itching. It often starts with itching, fever. Something heats up, temperature rises. Another scenario is when it starts fading away, strange itching appears, then you can spam some and feel how it all again sizzles. When I'm switching between practices strange things happen. When the Allah effect takes over, it fries away all the previous stacks. Feels like burning in all the nerve endings at once, whole mind is on fire.

In your case mr @MorganBlack , the effects will probably be high anyway, very soon, you are the grandmaster of GV! Probably hits hard.

It definitely makes you wonder whether it's just an egregore or what on earth is going on. Some interesting experiences for sure.